9/11 World Trade Center Conspiracy Theorists Have Their Facts Wrong - DOH
The collapse of both World Trade Center towers--and the smaller WTC 7 a few hours later--initially surprised even some experts. But subsequent studies have shown that the WTC's structural integrity was destroyed by intense fire as well as the severe damage inflicted by the planes. Delusional conspiracy theorists drink jet fuel prior to spewing ridiculous scientifically corrupt opinions.
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Widespread Damage
FACT: Following up on a May 2002 preliminary report by the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), a major study will be released in spring 2005 by the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST), a branch of the U.S. Department of Commerce. NIST shared its initial findings with PM and made its lead researcher available to our team of reporters. The NIST investigation revealed that plane debris sliced through the utility shafts at the North Tower's core, creating a conduit for burning jet fuel--and fiery destruction throughout the building. "It's very hard to document where the fuel went," says Forman Williams, a NIST adviser and a combustion expert, "but if it's atomized and combustible and gets to an ignition source, it'll go off." Burning fuel traveling down the elevator shafts would have disrupted the elevator systems and caused extensive damage to the lobbies. NIST heard first-person testimony that "some elevators slammed right down" to the ground floor. "The doors cracked open on the lobby floor and flames came out and people died," says James Quintiere, an engineering professor at the University of Maryland and a NIST adviser. A similar observation was made in the French documentary "9/11," by Jules and Gedeon Naudet. As Jules Naudet entered the North Tower lobby, minutes after the first aircraft struck, he saw victims on fire, a scene he found too horrific to film. |
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"Melted" Steel
FACT: Jet fuel burns at 800° to 1500°F, not hot enough to melt steel (2750°F). However, experts agree that for the towers to collapse, their steel frames didn't need to melt, they just had to lose some of their structural strength--and that required exposure to much less heat. "I have never seen melted steel in a building fire," says retired New York deputy fire chief Vincent Dunn, author of The Collapse Of Burning Buildings: A Guide To Fireground Safety. "But I've seen a lot of twisted, warped, bent and sagging steel. What happens is that the steel tries to expand at both ends, but when it can no longer expand, it sags and the surrounding concrete cracks." "Steel loses about 50 percent of its strength at 1100°F," notes senior engineer Farid Alfawak-hiri of the American Institute of Steel Construction. "And at 1800° it is probably at less than 10 percent." NIST also believes that a great deal of the spray-on fireproofing insulation was likely knocked off the steel beams that were in the path of the crashing jets, leaving the metal more vulnerable to the heat. But jet fuel wasn't the only thing burning, notes Forman Williams, a professor of engineering at the University of California, San Diego, and one of seven structural engineers and fire experts that PM consulted. He says that while the jet fuel was the catalyst for the WTC fires, the resulting inferno was intensified by the combustible material inside the buildings, including rugs, curtains, furniture and paper. NIST reports that pockets of fire hit 1832°F. "The jet fuel was the ignition source," Williams tells PM. "It burned for maybe 10 minutes, and [the towers] were still standing in 10 minutes. It was the rest of the stuff burning afterward that was responsible for the heat transfer that eventually brought them down." |
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Puffs Of Dust
FACT: Once each tower began to collapse, the weight of all the floors above the collapsed zone bore down with pulverizing force on the highest intact floor. Unable to absorb the massive energy, that floor would fail, transmitting the forces to the floor below, allowing the collapse to progress downward through the building in a chain reaction. Engineers call the process "pancaking," and it does not require an explosion to begin, according to David Biggs, a structural engineer at Ryan-Biggs Associates and a member of the American Society of Civil Engineers (ASCE) team that worked on the FEMA report. Like all office buildings, the WTC towers contained a huge volume of air. As they pancaked, all that air--along with the concrete and other debris pulverized by the force of the collapse--was ejected with enormous energy. "When you have a significant portion of a floor collapsing, it's going to shoot air and concrete dust out the window," NIST lead investigator Shyam Sunder tells PM. Those clouds of dust may create the impression of a controlled demolition, Sunder adds, "but it is the floor pancaking that leads to that perception." Demolition expert Romero regrets that his comments to the Albuquerque Journal became fodder for conspiracy theorists. "I was misquoted in saying that I thought it was explosives that brought down the building," he tells PM. "I only said that that's what it looked like." Romero, who agrees with the scientific conclusion that fire triggered the collapses, demanded a retraction from the Journal. It was printed Sept. 22, 2001. "I felt like my scientific reputation was on the line." But emperors-clothes.com saw something else: "The paymaster of Romero's research institute is the Pentagon. Directly or indirectly, pressure was brought to bear, forcing Romero to retract his original statement." Romero responds: "Conspiracy theorists came out saying that the government got to me. That is the farthest thing from the truth. This has been an albatross around my neck for three years."
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Comment by jim— 2006/09/03 @ 09:12 PM — (Reply)
Comment by Barry G.— 2006/09/03 @ 11:22 PM — (Reply)
Comment by Dugg— 2006/09/10 @ 12:21 AM — (Reply)
this is bunch of bull...... even if the pancake teory it's true, tower wouldn't fell directly in his footprints in 10 seconds..pancake efect would take 50-60 seconds to colapse the building.....why was the concrete pulverized....there shouldn't be so much dust...and hot clouds chasing people...where did they come from?....why there melted steel 3 weeks after the "atack" in the ground if the fuel didn't melt the steel...what melted the steel?....where was the army?......why no other building before colapsed due fire in history, but in new york 3 buildings in one day....strange isn't it....what about the explosions that firefighters and people heard-...there was many of them.....why was the evidence removed imediatly withou analiyses.....too many questions ....too many ...and finaly....why the news didn't report any of the statements that coud overfall the oficial story of 9 11........who did it and why.....does people that died and their families deserve justice and truth.....not excuses for wars
Comment by Damjan— 2007/09/08 @ 03:07 PM — (Reply)
and what abounds human parts on the Deutsche Bank...pancake wouldn't project them so far away
Comment by Damjan— 2007/09/08 @ 03:09 PM — (Reply)
and fact...much more of the money was spended on the clinton investigation as the investigation of wtctowers and building 7...and investigation was much quicker and therm like the wtc investigation..that points to something WAR ON TERROR or WAR OF TERROR. Since the cold war USgov is creating fear and enemies to prowoke wars. And gain profit. Why the Tibet wasn't liberated. There are nations that realy need america to help them. Where are the peacemakers/warmakers. GOD BLESS AMERICA
Comment by — 2007/09/08 @ 03:18 PM — (Reply)
Comment by aza spade— 2007/09/08 @ 04:58 PM — (Reply)
Comment by aza spade— 2007/09/08 @ 05:00 PM — (Reply)
why there was so little money in the investigation....and why just populare mechanics get to investigate..scientist all over the world are sayin that is impossible that wtc 1 would colapse in 10 seconds...if you bealive everything that they told you..then you shouldn't fear of a second investigatio (independent...and clinton was more valuable to them like 911...who knows what would be if democrats were on the top...no war for oil perhaps...damjan....and i study physics...so i know some
Comment by Damjan— 2007/09/09 @ 07:35 AM — (Reply)
nd what happened to the huge complex beneath the wtc...is gone....terorist atack in the 90ies just damaged one of the walls..that was it.....fire wouldn't colapse the huge building below...if that it's true i should abandon physics..cause my profesor is lying
Comment by — 2007/09/09 @ 07:40 AM — (Reply)
SO THEY ALLWAYS TELL US THE SAME THING. MY QUESTION IS: WHY ARE THE MOST ANNOYING QUESTIONS ABOUT WTC ATACKS CONSTANTLY UNANSWERED AND HIDDEN. AND WHEN THEY HIDE SOMETHING FROM US PEOPLE WE WILL BE SUSPICIOUS CUZ WE ARE NOT SHEEPS TO BE MANIPULATED LIKE THEY WANT US TO BE. CLINTON GOT HIS INVESTIGATION. wHEN THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION GONNA GET THEIR INVESTIGATION?????? If they are clean...THEY SHOULDN'T FEAR
QUESTIN 2: WTC WAS A CRIME SCENE? IT'S A CRIME TO REMOVE ANY OBJECTS ON THE CRIME SCENE BY THE LAW. WHY DID THEY MOVE ALL THE (MELTED) STEEL AND EVERYTHING WITHOUT FORENZIC ANNALASYS?...IF THE LAW WAS FOLLOWED ON THE EVENTS OF 9 11 THOSE QUESTION WOULDN'T EXIST..AND WHAT WAS BUILDING 7 IT LOOKED LIKE OUR OLD APARTMANT HOUSE WHEN THEY PULL IT.....
Comment by — 2007/09/09 @ 08:45 AM — (Reply)
YOU KNOW WHO:)
Comment by — 2007/09/09 @ 08:51 AM — (Reply)
Comment by aza spade— 2007/09/09 @ 10:18 AM — (Reply)
MANY QUESTIONS...STILL NO ANSWERS..IT MAKES YOU FEEL LIKE YOURE WRITIN TO A CHINESE OFFICIAL...I SAID IT MAKES YOU FEEL LIKE IT....FOR THE LAST TIME PLEASE....WHERE DID MELTED STEEL CAME FROM?.(IT WAS LIKE AN VULCANO WEEKS LATER) wHY WAS ALL THE STEEL IMEDIATLY REMOVED? wHY WAS THE INVESTIGATION SIMBOLIC AND DONE ONLY BY ONE CREW...WHAT ABOUT SECOND OPINIONS?
Comment by — 2007/09/09 @ 10:50 AM — (Reply)
THEY ANSWER ONLY HALF OF OUR QUSTEIONS.......WHAT HAPPENED TO THE INDESTRUVTABLE CORE....DID IT MELT DOWN....WHAT A POWERFULL KEROZINE THAT IS
Comment by — 2007/09/09 @ 01:07 PM — (Reply)
AND TOO MANY COIN COINCIDENCES BARRY G. SO MANY COICIDENCES THAT YOU CAN WRITE A BOOK ..AND COINCIDECES AR USUALY FROM TIME TO TIME
Comment by — 2007/09/09 @ 01:13 PM — (Reply)
Comment by aza spade— 2007/09/09 @ 02:22 PM — (Reply)
WOW..THAT SURE ANSWERED ALL MY QUESTIONS...A BOX OF CERIAL....AS WE COULD EXPECT ANSWERS THAT ARE INSULTING WICTIMS AND HUMAN LIFES....A BOX OF CEREAL....SERRIUS QUESTIONS ANSWERED WITH STUPIDITY..ARE YOU CEREAL?
Comment by — 2007/09/09 @ 02:39 PM — (Reply)
i SAID UNANSWERED NOT UNANSWERERABLE. THERE'S A DIFFERENCE. ARE YOU CEREAL?
Comment by — 2007/09/09 @ 02:47 PM — (Reply)
Comment by aza spade— 2007/09/09 @ 04:20 PM — (Reply)
Comment by aza spade— 2007/09/09 @ 04:24 PM — (Reply)
IN every crime investigation there are many unanswered questions. Investigators are tryn to answer those questions with forenzic analysses and questening eyewitnesses. In 911wtc case quite opposite was done. When you call me a jackass for asking. you are insulting all the 3000 families that have identical questions. Who asks is a jackass,..and who bealives everything is a sheep. Can a 1000 of coincidences happen in one day? And youre answer is a box of cereal..Have would those famillies felt when you'll gave them that answer. Are you cereal? WE JUST WANT A FRESH INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION, IF THEY ARE INNOCENT THEY WILL ALLOW IT. TRU PATRIOTS ARE INVASTIGATING AND ASKIN ABOUT 911. tHOSE WHO HIDE EVIDENCE AND FACTS ARE JUST tERRORIST.
Comment by Damjan— 2007/09/10 @ 03:47 AM — (Reply)
Comment by Ernie Els— 2007/09/09 @ 05:19 PM — (Reply)
Comment by aza spade— 2007/09/09 @ 05:25 PM — (Reply)
NOW ANSWER ME NR 22 AZA...AND WITHOUT STUPIDITY AND IGNORANCE. STZRAIGHT ANSWER
Comment by — 2007/09/10 @ 03:48 AM — (Reply)
AND SOMETHING ABOUT UNANSWERED QUESTIONS.....THERE WAS SO MANY OF THEM REGARDING CLINTON. AND THEY ANSWERED THEM ALL. AND THEY DID THERMLY. nOBODY COMPARED QUESTIONS ABOUT CLINTON TO A BOX OF CEREAL. CLINTONS BEDROOM SINS WERE MORE IMPORTANT THAN 3000 HUMAN LIFES AND MUCH MORE EFFORT WAS MADE TO OVERTHROWW CLINTON LIKE IS MADE NOW TO INVESTIGATE WTC COLAPSES. ARE THE BEDROOM SINS MORE VALUABLE THAN 3000 INNOCENT HUMAN LIFES..THANK YOU
Comment by Damjan— 2007/09/10 @ 03:57 AM — (Reply)
AND AL QAIDA IS A FICTION CREATED IN US GOV. EVEN BIN LADEN HEARD THIS NAME FIRST FROM AMERICAN MEDIA......GREAT THREAT ARE INDIVIDUAL GROUPS NOT AL QAIDA. YOU SHOULD FEAR THEM NOT AL QAIDA. THERE ARE MANY TERRORISTS, BUT TZHERE IS NO NETWORK LIKE YOU SAY. US GOV. TRAINNED AL QAIDA FOR HELP IN WAR WITH SOVIET UNION AND NOW THEY TURNED THEM INTO ENEMIES. dIDN'T AFGHANS HELP YOU IN THE COLD WAR WHEN YOU MADE UP THE RED MENACE...AND NOW YOU MADE UP A MENACE IN CAVES FOR CONTROLL ON MIDDLE EAST OIL...tibetan people would rEALY USE YOURE HELP..MORE THEN A MILLION OF THEM ARE DEAD,,,BUT U WONT HELP THEM CUZ THEY GOT NO OIL, GOLD OR DIAMANTS.THEY GOT JUST MOUNTAINS..AND YOU CANNOT DO NOTHING WITH MOUNTAINS....
FACT. IF THERE WOULD BE NO 911 AND COLAPSES OF THE TOWERS THERE WOULD NO WAR ON OIL. sO MY FINAL QUESTION: wHO DID PROFIT MOSTLY ON 911 ATTACKS ?(usa)
Comment by Damjan— 2007/09/10 @ 04:12 AM — (Reply)
AMERICA IS DOING SAME THING LIKE TALIBANS...75TIMES DID THEY INVADE OTHER COUNTRYS SINCE 1945.....NEOKONZERVATIVES ARE CUTTIN DOWN HUMAN RIGHTS IN THE NAME OF WAR ON TERROR. cONSTANT FEAR IS BEIN CREATED..STEREOTYPES ABOUT MUSLIMS...THE FEAR OF CHEMICALL WEAPONS WTHAT WASN'T FOUND ANYWHERE....ARRESTED MUSLIM PEOPLE ON A BASE OF A TOURIST TAPE. cONVICTED TERRORISTS WITHOUT ANY EVIDENCE. TtREATED LIKE ANIMALS IN GUATANAMO BASE. EVERY ARAB IS A POTENCIAL TERRORISTCAMERAS EVERYWERE..UNHUMAN CONDITIONS IN GUATANAMO...CIVIL RIGHTS ARE SLIPING.THEY CAN SEARCH US WHENEVER THEY WILL WITH NO PARTICULARY CAUSE...PEOPLE ARE BRAINWASHED WITH CONSTANT FEAR OF TERROR.....I ASK MYSELF WHO IS A REAL TERRORIST.....THERE ARE TWO SIDES WITH SAME GOALS....NEOKONZERVATIVES HAVE SAME GOALS AS ISLAM EXTREMISTS...THEY BOTH CONTROL THE MASSES WITH FEAR...AND THEY'RE BOTH DANGEROUS AND EVIL AND WE SHELL FIGHT THEM BOTH....BUT WE WONT FIGHT WITH VIOLENCE LIKE THEY DO, CUZ VIOLENCE BREEDS ONLY VIOLENCE. WE SHELL FIGHT THEM WITH LOVE COMPASSION AND TRUE UNDERSTANDING..
Comment by Damjan— 2007/09/10 @ 04:27 AM — (Reply)
Comment by aza spade— 2007/09/10 @ 11:06 AM — (Reply)
SO U SAY, WE SHOULD BEALIVE THOSE 1000 COINCIDENCES AND IGNORE ALL THE HOLES IN THE FINDINGS. iT IS PATRIOTIC NOT TO DOUBT...WHAT ABOUT THE EXPLOSION BEFORE THE PLAIN EVEN HIT THE BUITDING? (BVUT NO CEREALS IN THE ANSWERS..I ALREDY HAD BREAKFAST)
Comment by DAMJAN— 2007/09/10 @ 04:51 AM — (Reply)
Comment by aza spade— 2007/09/10 @ 05:29 PM — (Reply)
FACT. IN THE NINETIES TORRORIST PLANTED HUNDREDS POUNDS OF EXPLOZIVE DIRECTLY BY THE TOWERS FOUNDATION. sO POWERFULL BLAST DIDN'T KNOCK THE BUILDING DOWN, ONE OF THE WALLS JUST CRACKED. AND NOW U ARE TELLING US THAT THE PLAIN THAT HIT THE BUILDINGS TOP LEVES DID BROUGHT THE BUILDINGS DOWN. IT'S NOT LOGICAL. FUEL TRAWELING DOWN THE CORE WAS MORE POWERFULL AS DIRECTLY PLANTED EXPLOZIVES. IT'S NOT LOGICAL AND SCIENTIFIC..SO U SAY THAT THE EVENTS OF 911 CHEATED LAWS OF PHYSICS TO!
gIVE ME A DIRECT ANSWER WITH NO CEREAL!!!!!!
Comment by dAMJAN— 2007/09/10 @ 07:07 AM — (Reply)
Point of fact: The 'conspiracy' you refer to requires thousands of conspirators. In six years, ONE of them would have leaked something somewhere.
Find a witness to any conspiracy regarding 9/11 and get back to me on that. Until then, keep your Senator Craig hole closed please.
Comment by Ed— 2007/09/10 @ 07:49 AM — (Reply)
NOT IN A COUNTRY WITH SUCH A HISTORY OF CONSPIRACIES. IDON'T TALK ABOUT CONSPIRACY I ASK (ESSENCIAL) QUESTIONSW. IF ALL OF YOU ARE SATISFIED WITH PEANUTS AND AN INSIDE INVASTIGATION, THEN OK. I'M NOT ACUSING ANYBODY. I , BUT HOWEVER ANALYSSISES ON THE STEEL AND TESTS SHOULD BEEN DONE. INDEPENDET INVASTIGATION WOULDN'T HARM NOBODY THAT ISN'T GUILTY. WHY SUCH A IGNORANCE. WHEN YOU INVESTIGATE A MUZRDER YOU CAN ASK 1000 QUESTIONS, BUT IN A SUCH A MASACRE LIKE 9 11 WE SHOULDN'T ASK NONE!!!
Comment by Damjan— 2007/09/10 @ 08:14 AM — (Reply)
AND THERE ARE MANY RECORDED STATESMENTS OF STRANGE EXOLOSIONS AND EVENTS THAT NEVER CAME ON MAINSREAM MEDIA. THEY SIMPLY DIDN'T BROADCAST THEM CUZ THEY COULD OVERTHROW THE OFICIAL STORY. UCAN SEE THEM IN THOUSANDS OF AMATER VIDEOS.THAT WERE SEND AND LOST....I SAW 1000 OF THEM...THIS IS NOT CONSPIRACY THEORY...THIS IS CONSPIRACY POSSIBILITY
Comment by DAMJAN— 2007/09/10 @ 08:20 AM — (Reply)
Comment by aza spade— 2007/09/10 @ 09:44 AM — (Reply)
No my friend. I actualy live in a different time zone. In a little country called Slovenia. Our country isn't runned by Neokonzervatives and mabe we get more information from our media and USA isn't presented to us like peacemaking heroes and we still have human rights anfreedom. U use to have that to before this administration,
But why are you analyzing me and what i'm doing...What does this have to do with 911. Stil no answers about melted steel, indestructable core,...... and statements that never got in the air cuz they could harm an official story!!! You only draw atention from my questions!!!!!!
Comment by — 2007/09/10 @ 10:41 AM — (Reply)
and comment nr. 22 i wrote at 3.47, by youre time..u mist it..
Comment by Damjan— 2007/09/10 @ 10:47 AM — (Reply)
Comment by aza spade— 2007/09/10 @ 11:00 AM — (Reply)
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...OR COUNTRY HAD A 7DAY WAR (THAT WAS DIPLOMATIC..FIGHTERS WITH PENCILS..( WE ARE IN EU NOW).AND FROM THAT DAY WE ARE GROWING ECONOMICLY. I'M NOT IN A THIRD WORLD. AMERICANS THINK EVERYONE IS IN THE THIRD WORLD.....I'M REALY JUST BUGGED BY 911 AND YOU STILL DIDN'T GIVE ME NO ANSWERS...DRAWING THE ATENTION AWAY AGAIN
Comment by DAMJAN— 2007/09/10 @ 11:10 AM — (Reply)
WE ENTERED EUROPIAN UNION 2004....IT DOESN'T MATTER...WITH YOURE IGNORANCE YOU JUST MADE ME MORE SURE ABOUT EVERYTHINH...THANK BRO ...MAYBE SOME ANSWERS
Comment by Damjan— 2007/09/10 @ 11:14 AM — (Reply)
Comment by aza spade— 2007/09/10 @ 11:46 AM — (Reply)
Comment by aza spade— 2007/09/10 @ 11:48 AM — (Reply)
mAN IF I WOULD SOMETHING AGAINST OUR GOWERNMENT..I WOULDN'T WRITE ON THE 911OFFICIAL STORY PAGE...FOR THE LAST TIME 9 11 SEEMS FISHY TO ME AND I WROTE ALL OF MY QUESTIONS.....TYPICLI DRAWING ATENTION AWAY FROM THE REAL QUESTIONS And PROJECTING ATENTION INTO ME...TO DECEIVE OTHERS WHITCH MAY FIND SOME SENSE IN MY WORDS....THE SAME THING IS YOUR EGOWERNMENT DOING ALL DTHE...YOURE BEHAVIOR IS JUST AN EVIDENCE OF DECEPTION...YOU COULD ANSWER ATLEAST ONE QUESTION BUT YOU ARE PUTTIN ALL YOURE EFFORT TO MAKE ME LOOK BAD...APPLAUSE...I'M JUST A HUMAN THAT IS BOTTERED BY LIES AND DECEPTIONS TO HIDE A TRUTH..SIMLE AS PEANUTS OR CERALS....AND IF YOU WANT TO KNOE...MY MOTHER IS GERMAN....HER CAUSIN WAS IN THE TOWERS THAT DIE AND HE GOT PULVERIZED..I LIKE THAT MAN..AND NOW HE'S GONE...DO YOU THINK I WANT TO BEALIVE IN AN INSIDE JOB...BUT EVUDENCE AND LIES, DECEPTIONS ARE PULLING TOWARD THAT DIRECTION...NOW YOU KNOW MR. PATRIOT
Comment by — 2007/09/10 @ 01:06 PM — (Reply)
Comment by aza spade— 2007/09/10 @ 01:26 PM — (Reply)
MY LIFE? OR THE LIFE THAT "NEW WORLD ORDER" WANT ME TO HAVE?
Comment by Damjan— 2007/09/10 @ 01:41 PM — (Reply)
Ma comments are based on years of research. No "conspiracy theorist" convinced me. I'm not a bealiver. Iwant to find out things on my own. Iwont botter you anymore cuz it's a waste of time. i'm convinced.
Comment by Damjan— 2007/09/10 @ 01:43 PM — (Reply)
Comment by aza spade— 2007/09/10 @ 02:22 PM — (Reply)
Comment by Ernie Els— 2007/09/10 @ 08:09 PM — (Reply)
Ernie.you think that people would be amuzed by youe mockin.U shouldn't ask questions about me , and you labeles my country as being 4th world, without knowing anything about it. You shouldn't ask questions about me. U should ask questions about 9 11. Maybe we people from the 4th world have more compassion for human lifes and we want trtuth, People close to me and you died there and you are talkin about me and 4th world....Thank you mr. patriot
Comment by Damjan— 2007/09/11 @ 12:25 AM — (Reply)
Stop labeling...u are not a uperior rase....like i'm not....3rd world is the therm that americans made up...THERE?S JUST ONE WORLD
Comment by Damjan— 2007/09/11 @ 12:28 AM — (Reply)
And whitch world do you call a country that is constantly in war for profits. Our country may be poor and week, but we don't have to justify constant bloodspil for oil, goods and imperialistic world cdomination..I'll call it UNDERWORLD
Comment by Damjan— 2007/09/11 @ 12:45 AM — (Reply)
Tnere are many things to discuss here, but today isn't a day for doing that. Today is September 11th, tuesday, 2007. I would likethgat we all remembere innocent victoms of 9 11 and we should wish them peace. We shouild remember also countless victoms in Iraq, cuz there's just one human rase and we all bleed!!!!!!
Comment by Damjan— 2007/09/11 @ 03:07 AM — (Reply)
Comment by aza spade— 2007/09/11 @ 11:11 AM — (Reply)
CREATING FEAR.....THAT'S RASIST...AND YOU ARE TURNING MUSLIMS INTO ANIMALS LIKE AFROAMERICANS WERE BEFORE 1960.....BUT THEY ARE JUST PEOPLE...ONLY THE FEW ARE DANGEROUS..BUT THEY ARE NOT MUSLIMS...THEY'RE CORUPTET FOUNDAMELISTS AND MUSLIMS ARE AFRAID OF THEM TO. fUNNY AREN'T NEOKONZERVATIVES DOING THE SAME THING..JUST IN A DIFFERENT......FEAR IS A TOOL TO MANIPULATE..AND THEY ARE USING IT BOTH....SO I WONT FEAR CUZ THEY BOTH WANT ME TO FEAR...YOURE STATEMENT IS A PROOF OF CREATING STEREOTYPES AND FEAR...DON'T WAKE UP ONE DAY AND REALIZE THAT YOU ARE THE SAME..I REFUSE TO BE AFRAID..CUZ I LOVE ALL GOOD PEOPLE..BLACK..RED..BROWN..YELLOW AND EVEN GREEN...THOSE FEW WANT US TO FEAR SO THEY CAN CONTROL..IF I'M NOT AFRAID NOBODY'S CONTROLING ME
Comment by Damjan— 2007/09/11 @ 11:30 AM — (Reply)
AND FOR ALL MY LIFE I'VE BEEN FOLLOWING THE TEACHINGS OF A GREAT MAN NAMED OSHO.....NOBODY WILL CONVERT CUZ PRAYIN IN TEMPLES IS AN INSULT TO YOUR OWN SOUL..THEY DON'T HAVE A CHANCE
Comment by Damjan— 2007/09/11 @ 11:35 AM — (Reply)
Comment by aza spade— 2007/09/11 @ 11:36 AM — (Reply)
Comment by aza spade— 2007/09/11 @ 11:37 AM — (Reply)
NO..I HATE ISLAM EXTREMISTS AS MUCHG AS NEOKONZERVATIVES....FACT
Comment by Damjan— 2007/09/11 @ 11:40 AM — (Reply)
VIOLENCE BREEDS MORE VIOLENCE...AND LOVE BREEDS MORE LOVE..IF WE KEEP ON FIGTING..IT WILL NEVER STO..IT WILL ONLY GO WORST
Comment by Damjan— 2007/09/11 @ 11:41 AM — (Reply)
Comment by aza spade— 2007/09/11 @ 01:07 PM — (Reply)
CUZ ALL I WANT IN LIFE IS PEACE...WHEN YOU HARM SOMEONE IT'S LIKE HURMING AN REFLECTION OF YOURSELF. U CAN HATE SOMEONE..BUT WHEBN HATE BOCOMES VIOLENCE HURM IS DONE...AND THENB HET IMPACT IS PROJECTED BACK INTO YOU..IT'S A CIRCLE.....I THINK THAT WARS WILL BREED MORE WARS..AND THAT'S NOT GOOD FOR THE EARTH AN GLOBAL POPULATION....WE HAVE TO START WITH DIPLOMATIC SOLUTIONS..LIVE AND LET LIVE...THERE ARE PEOPLE DYING FROM HUNGER BECAUSE OF THE TRADE RESTRICTION...AND WE GOT ENOUGH FOOD TO FEED ENTIRE WORLD....MAYBE LOVE AND JOY OF GIVING (FREE TRADE FOR ALL) WILL DO THE TRICK, NOT WARS...LITTLE LESS MONEY ON THE MILITARY..AND MORE FOR FEEDING AND EDJUCATING THE POOR...IT'S OUR PLANET...WE SHOULDN'T DESTROY IT BECAUSE OF IMAGINARY BORDERS AND NATION...WE SHOULD PAY MORE ATENTION ON OUR PLANET'S HEALTH
Comment by DAMJAN— 2007/09/11 @ 01:10 PM — (Reply)
Comment by aza spade— 2007/09/11 @ 01:54 PM — (Reply)
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Comment by aza spade— 2007/09/11 @ 01:58 PM — (Reply)
OK...FEAR IS FOOD FOR KONSERVATIVES...WITHOUT FEAR THEY WOULDN'T EXIST. SO THEY ARE CREATING PRISON WITHOUT BARS..DEFINING WHAT YOU SHOULD AND WHAT YOU SHOULDN'T. tHEY ALREDY CONTROL THE PEOPLE WITH PATRIOTIC LAW. aND FEAR HAS ALWAYS BEEN AN ACE IN THEIR SLEEVE. AND WHEN PEOPLE ARE AFRAID THEY ARE IN SHELL. THRU HISTORY THERE WAS ALWAYS CONSTANT FEAR AND GREAT DANGER...iT'S A REZHIM BASE D ON STRICT RULES OF BEHAVIOR AND RESTRICTIONS THAT ARE CUTTIN IN HUMAN RIGHTS. aND CONSERVATIVES WORK WITH GODS WILL...THEY ARE SAYIN THAT
Comment by dAMJAN— 2007/09/11 @ 02:25 PM — (Reply)
AND MUSLIM EXTRIMISTS ARE RUN BY GOD TOO. THEY SAYIN THE EXACT SAME THING...AND WE ALL KNOW HOW THEY'RE ARE CREATING FEAR..bUT THE FACT THAT THEY BOTH CUT INTO HUMAN RIGHTS AND PRODUCE MASSIVE FEAR WHITCH IS CONTROLING THE MASSES
Comment by dAMJAN— 2007/09/11 @ 02:28 PM — (Reply)
THEY FEEL GREAT FEAR AND DANGER FROM YOU...AND YOU FEEL THE EXACT SAME FEAR FROM THEM...A NEVERENDING STORY....AND TRYIN TO PROJECT DAT FEAR ON OTHERS...THEY ARE DOING IT...U TRY TO SCARE ME WITH A SITUATION IN SLOVENIA...
Comment by DAMJAN— 2007/09/11 @ 02:33 PM — (Reply)
AND BY THE WAY: SLOVENIAN SOLDIERS ARE FIGHTING YOURE WAR TOO..
Comment by Damjan— 2007/09/11 @ 02:42 PM — (Reply)
oH SAY CAN WE SEE BY THE ONE LINE AT ALL
OUR EATH TO ENBRAZE. AT THE COLUMN OF ALL NATIONS
WHERE OUR CHILDREN CAN PLAY IN THE WORLD WITHOUT WARS
WHERE WE STAND HAND IN HAND IN THE GRACE OF CREATION
WHERE THE RIVERS RUN CLEAN THRU THE FORRESTS OF GREN
WHERE THE CITIES STAND TALL IN THE CLEAR SKY OF FREEDOM
OH SAY DO OR HEARTS SANG OUT FOR HARMONY AND LOVE FOREVER
ON THE PLANET, OUR EARTH BLESSED WITH PEACE AND TRU LOVE
Comment by Damjan— 2007/09/11 @ 03:29 PM — (Reply)
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Comment by Ernie Els— 2007/09/11 @ 07:56 PM — (Reply)
Comment by aza spade— 2007/09/11 @ 09:58 PM — (Reply)
violence is not an answe...and you can mock me for seeking peace....but with good dids we can chNGE THE WORLD...WARS WILL BREED MORE WARS...MORE DEATH AND DESTRUCTION...FAMILIES WITHOUT FATHERS...CRIPLE CHILDREN...AND MORE YOU WILL ATACK THEM..THEY WILL JUST RETALITE..3RD WORLD WAR IS COMMIN IF THE THINGS ARE GOING TO DEVELOPE AS THEY DO THAT...WE CAN DESTRROY OUR PLANET EARTH....U FEAR SO MUCH FROM TERRORIST...BUT GLOBAL WARMING WILL KILL US SOONER...AND NOBODY DOESN'T CARE ABOUT THAT...AND THAT'S A REAL PROBLEM...REAL TERORIST....AND THEN WE HAVE A ROTTEN POLUTED PLANET THAT IS DYING AND FACING GLOBAL WAR.......DO YOU REALY WANT THAT....OR YOU WANT THE SAME THINGS AS I DO...WE SHOULD GET RID OF THE FEAR MAN..NO WAR DIDN'T SOVE ANY PROBLEMS IN HISTORY...THE PROBLEM GOT ONLY WORST...HOW CAN'T YOU UNDERSTAND THAT....dAMJAN/JACKASS. ONLY GOOD DIDS CAN HAVE AN POZITIVE EFFECTS..ACTS OF VIOLENCE ARE CREATING FEAR AND STEREOTYPES ABOUT DIFFERENT PEOPLE...TO FEAR MEANS..NOT OTKNOW...U FORGOT THAT WE ARE JUST HUMAN BEANS..REFECTIONS OF EACH OTHER...AND WHEN U RAGE A WAR AGAINST OTHER NATION U RAGE A WAR AGAINST YOURSELF...AND ERNIE..STOP WITH JUDGING ME AND MAKIN ME LOOK BAD...IT DOESN'T MATHER TO ME WHAT U SAY...I KNOW U'R A HUMAN LIKE ME AND I LOVE YOURE SOUL LIKE I LOVE ALL THE IRAQIS SOUL...I EVEN LOVE THE SOUL OF PRESIDEN'T BUSH...SOUL CANNOT BE CORUPTE. JUST LOST IN SHADOW OF FEAR.
Comment by Damjan— 2007/09/12 @ 02:20 AM — (Reply)
66, 67...MY DEFINITTION
Comment by Damjan— 2007/09/12 @ 02:27 AM — (Reply)
I have a close friend serving in afghanistan. He wrote to me an shockant letter. He said; You would never bealive how big is the difference beetween what supose to be tru and what actualy is thru...2 opposite stories...it's another colo9nial war...don't bealive nothing you hear cause they operate with fear...we are just chasin ghosts here that somebody would game time. When i come home (if i come)..i'll never reach for a gun again cuz we soldiers are working for the interesses of few....spred awareness..cuz they are wining...WE ARE JUST PUPPETS...That's his letter...what happened to a soldier that he would write such a stuff....he was always into military...we had long fights about war on terror...HE ALWAYS SUPORTED THAT WAR and now sudently he thinks opposite..IT WAS SHOCKIN TO ME CUZ I KNOW HOW HE USE TO THINK.
Comment by Damjan— 2007/09/12 @ 03:53 AM — (Reply)
Comment by aza spade— 2007/09/12 @ 09:46 AM — (Reply)
and ERNIE...you are alredy in a mouse trap that youre government has created..
Comment by Damjan— 2007/09/12 @ 05:57 AM — (Reply)
AND AZA: I AGREE:MUSLIM EXTREMISTS ARE DANGEROUS. wHAT ABOUT BIGGER MORE ORGANIZED FORCES THAT WE SHOULD FEAR. YES I'M TALKING ABOUT CHINA. THEY KILLED OVER AMILION OF tIBETANS, STEAL THEIR COUNTRY BUT THE WORLD JUST WATCHED. tHEY CAN CALL IN 700 000 000 SOLDIERS IN THE ARMY (COMUNIST RULES 17 - 46). AND IT'S JUST A MATHER OF TIME WHERE THEIR APETIT WILL CAUSE A GLOBAL CONFLICT. AND WE DON'T WANT TO BE HIT BY ANOTHER SUPRISE...OR DO WE....CHINA AND TIBET LIBERATION SHOULD FOLLOW..ISN'T NATO HERE TO DO THAT
Comment by Damjan— 2007/09/12 @ 07:03 AM — (Reply)
AND AZA: I AGREE:MUSLIM EXTREMISTS ARE DANGEROUS. wHAT ABOUT BIGGER MORE ORGANIZED FORCES THAT WE SHOULD FEAR. YES I'M TALKING ABOUT CHINA. THEY KILLED OVER AMILION OF tIBETANS, STEAL THEIR COUNTRY BUT THE WORLD JUST WATCHED. tHEY CAN CALL IN 700 000 000 SOLDIERS IN THE ARMY (COMUNIST RULES 17 - 46). AND IT'S JUST A MATHER OF TIME WHERE THEIR APETIT WILL CAUSE A GLOBAL CONFLICT. AND WE DON'T WANT TO BE HIT BY ANOTHER SUPRISE...OR DO WE....CHINA AND TIBET LIBERATION SHOULD FOLLOW..ISN'T NATO HERE TO DO THAT
Comment by Damjan— 2007/09/12 @ 07:06 AM — (Reply)
AND AZA: I AGREE:MUSLIM EXTREMISTS ARE DANGEROUS. wHAT ABOUT BIGGER MORE ORGANIZED FORCES THAT WE SHOULD FEAR. YES I'M TALKING ABOUT CHINA. THEY KILLED OVER AMILION OF tIBETANS, STEAL THEIR COUNTRY BUT THE WORLD JUST WATCHED. tHEY CAN CALL IN 700 000 000 SOLDIERS IN THE ARMY (COMUNIST RULES 17 - 46). AND IT'S JUST A MATHER OF TIME WHERE THEIR APETIT WILL CAUSE A GLOBAL CONFLICT. AND WE DON'T WANT TO BE HIT BY ANOTHER SUPRISE...OR DO WE....CHINA AND TIBET LIBERATION SHOULD FOLLOW..ISN'T NATO HERE TO DO THAT
Glory School
Comment by Glory School— 2007/09/12 @ 07:46 AM — (Reply)
wHAT KIND OF GLORY SCHOOL FROM RUSSIA..WHAT'S THA.....iTWAS ME DAMJAN
Comment by Damjan— 2007/09/12 @ 08:03 AM — (Reply)
wHAT KIND OF GLORY SCHOOL FROM RUSSIA..HOW DID THE COMUNISTS COPY MY COMMENTS ..c'mon tel me what's with china...iTWAS ME DAMJAN
Comment by Damjan— 2007/09/12 @ 08:05 AM — (Reply)
Comment by aza spade— 2007/09/12 @ 09:38 AM — (Reply)
Comment by aza spade— 2007/09/12 @ 09:47 AM — (Reply)
Yes,...but you are so concetrated on muslims that when chinese could hit...(they alredy prooven they got no sympathy in Tibet)......it would be suchz a suprize that we wont be prepared.........Liberatin of Tibet...and then China...yoou know howmuch is 700 000 000 comunist soldiiers marchin in....i'm consired about them...yes i am....cuz they are organizedč....those cavemen can wait
Comment by Damjan— 2007/09/12 @ 10:22 AM — (Reply)
Comment by aza spade— 2007/09/12 @ 11:36 AM — (Reply)
Someone has to stop them first. That was ameracin tactic in Iraq. So sto p China before they can.....
Comment by — 2007/09/12 @ 02:00 PM — (Reply)
Comment by aza spade— 2007/09/12 @ 02:12 PM — (Reply)
No man. Don't twist my words. I'm 1000 miles away from china and himalayas..hehe....i'm just pointing out the reason why americans invade Iraq. To prevent atcks that Husseins regim could launch against USA......I'm against any invasion.
Comment by Damjan— 2007/09/12 @ 02:40 PM — (Reply)
Comment by aza spade— 2007/09/14 @ 09:25 AM — (Reply)
and that's a proof of a war based on profit...not security......fear about china is real...but the politicians don't create it.....
Comment by — 2007/09/12 @ 10:26 AM — (Reply)
Comment by aza spade— 2007/09/12 @ 10:30 AM — (Reply)
...chinese are torturing and killing their students...genocide is stil goin on in Tibet...they kill or inprison everybody that think the other way...torture is legal there.....and you don't opose them, make them stop somehow....no they can host the olimpics...it's said and absurd
Comment by Damjan— 2007/09/12 @ 10:31 AM — (Reply)
croatians are stupid....i don't fear them...they are silly...eu border and that kind of stuff....i live near that border ,i'm . I'm conserned about china cuz it's a global mather that should been exposed here....
Comment by Damjan— 2007/09/12 @ 10:34 AM — (Reply)
yeah..there was always crotia...they wont do nothing on the europian border...they know who will come to defend that border...hehe
Comment by — 2007/09/12 @ 10:36 AM — (Reply)
about afghanistan ..i agreee....but what are troops still doing there...u see..middle east war will n ever end....they will always retaliate
Comment by — 2007/09/12 @ 10:44 AM — (Reply)
So wars aren't doing the trick...cuz shit is gettin uglier every day
Comment by — 2007/09/12 @ 10:46 AM — (Reply)
military advance in such away, that 3rd war may be last
Comment by — 2007/09/12 @ 12:50 PM — (Reply)
I'm writin too much stuff....bye my friend....I saided enough...h...i hope we shall achive world peace one day....don't we?...Thanks for youre time!!!
Comment by Damjan— 2007/09/12 @ 02:46 PM — (Reply)
Comment by aza spade— 2007/09/12 @ 02:55 PM — (Reply)
Comment by aza spade— 2007/09/12 @ 10:48 PM — (Reply)
You just had to, ha..man i'm not offended....i'm quite amused by it....SENATOR OF PIECE....NOT AN BAD IDEA...WE NEED A MAN LIKE THAT..LIKE MAN NAMED GHANDI..HEHE
Comment by Damjan— 2007/09/13 @ 02:57 AM — (Reply)
nOW GHANDI WAS an A1 politician...i wonder if he would raise such massive fear..if he was on the top of USA....
Comment by Damjan— 2007/09/13 @ 02:59 AM — (Reply)
I how to say sime to finish the session. Aza, when you finf a little hole or an contradiction in my statements, u twist my words and point that hole out (look how stupid he is , people!)....but most of my comments ha weight..but you just keep on ignoring the comments that actualy make sence...frome the begining of our conversation (98,, 99, 95, and92 67 and 68...i ment those...they've been ignored cuz they're makin sense
Comment by Damjan— 2007/09/13 @ 03:34 AM — (Reply)
Comment by aza spade— 2007/09/13 @ 09:14 PM — (Reply)
sorry i write fast when i'm nervous..i think my english is good if you know where i'm commin from....I ain't mockin or pointing fingers on u AZA....You could answer more.
Comment by — 2007/09/14 @ 02:55 AM — (Reply)
i'll try harder for u too understand me....but i think u understood it all
Comment by d— 2007/09/14 @ 03:01 AM — (Reply)
Comment by aza spade— 2007/09/14 @ 09:30 AM — (Reply)
Comment by Ed— 2007/09/13 @ 09:25 PM — (Reply)
My english is do good for a 4th world citizan
Comment by Damjan— 2007/09/14 @ 02:59 AM — (Reply)
Comment by Ed— 2007/09/13 @ 06:08 AM — (Reply)
Now dat's offenzive....But I'm amuzed...they all are pointing on me...not on the queistion....insulting....but i'm amuzed. Funny man that Ed. Isn't he? If u didn't heard...we are non millitant country....with clean diplomatic history of independence....Could you sell me a magnum 44..it's legal in america...everybody can buy it....In our country it's wery hard to buy a gun (retrictions)....and good so cuz guns are 4 killing...and usa has a biggest violence rate in the world...i wonder why...gunz sure don't have nothing to do with that...funny man that Ed!!!
Comment by Damjan— 2007/09/13 @ 06:26 AM — (Reply)
fact: In usa you can legaly buy guns and prostitutes (women)....In our country you cannot buy any weapons and prostitution is ilegal......you could buy a gun for me (but i don't want to own it), and even arange prostitutes....but i cannot do that in our country cuz both our ilegal...and our crime rate is so low..that w don't even know what serrius crime is...we usualy see it happening in usa...So I'm proud to be a pecefull slovene with no blood on our hands...and no guns in our childrens hands..thank you..ed
Comment by Damjan— 2007/09/13 @ 06:35 AM — (Reply)
Ed...yo have better options to arange yourself a female slave in USA. You exploid and objectizing women with prostitution and biggesst adult movies industry...If that's not exooiding i don't know what it is. I think that evan republicans would agree with me dat isn't HEALTHY fun.
Comment by Damjan— 2007/09/13 @ 07:53 AM — (Reply)
Comment by Ed— 2007/09/13 @ 06:38 PM — (Reply)
My mother...order mail bride.....it's seems like you are a very intelectual man...isn't he......words are like rubber bullets...they just bounce of...hey AZA..isn't he the intelligent one?...tjank you Ed..You are insulting youre own mother by insulting my....thanks..
Comment by Damjan— 2007/09/14 @ 02:52 AM — (Reply)
Comment by Ernie Els— 2007/09/14 @ 07:03 AM — (Reply)
bunch of comediants...AZA don't you agree....now they're on my mother...WOW
Comment by Damjan— 2007/09/14 @ 07:32 AM — (Reply)
AZA..I think you are the only inteligent and intelectual person...and I can only speek too you....those two belong in kindergarten...jokes about mamas..
Comment by Damjan— 2007/09/14 @ 07:35 AM — (Reply)
Comment by Ed— 2007/09/14 @ 07:44 AM — (Reply)
it's manipulation...i wont say nuttin else...weapon industry is economic bussiness....they must produce new weapons, because of jobs and profits...so war is essential...government pays for that weapons..and they want profit on the weapons too....you know....WAR IS A BIG BUSINESS....THEN TELL ME WHY usa NEVER LIBERATED tIBET ?
Comment by Damjan— 2007/09/14 @ 07:54 AM — (Reply)
AND OUR 4TH WORLD COUNTY IS A FULL MEMBER OF NATO....SO WE DON'T HAVE TO BEG
Comment by Damjan— 2007/09/14 @ 07:56 AM — (Reply)
BUT TIBETANS BEG YOU FOR HELP.....AND YOUR GOVERNMENT JUST STOOD THERE...THEY DID NUTTIN TO HELP...AND CHINA IS A WORLD THREAT....OR IS IT A FRIEND..
Comment by Damjan— 2007/09/14 @ 07:59 AM — (Reply)
Comment by aza spade— 2007/09/14 @ 09:32 AM — (Reply)
YOU DON'T KNOW THAT 1,2 MILION PEOPLE DIED THERE? aND THE WORLD JUST STOOD THERE
Comment by — 2007/09/14 @ 09:45 AM — (Reply)
Comment by aza spade— 2007/09/14 @ 09:54 AM — (Reply)
India and China agree to fight terrorism
January 15, 2002 Posted: 12:23 AM EST (0523 GMT)
Working together: Zhu (l) and Vajpayee
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By Maria Ressa
CNN
NEW DELHI, India -- China and India have agreed to work together to fight terrorism, stressing that their relationship does not hinge on their differing positions on Pakistan.
Indian Prime Minister Atal Behari Vajpayee made the comments at a state banquet in honor of Chinese Premier Zhu Rongji. Zhu is on a six-day visit to India, the first by a Chinese leader in a decade.
Zhu held talks with Indian leaders Monday to try to reassure New Delhi of a more even-handed approach to the region after years of backing Pakistan.
China, which borders both India and Pakistan, has repeatedly called on the two nuclear rivals to end a military stand-off triggered by an attack on India's parliament last month which New Delhi blames on two Pakistan-based militant groups.
Zhu met Indian President K.R. Narayanan, Vice President Krishan Kant and Prime Minister Vajpayee and held wide-ranging talks.
India's external affairs minister Jaswant Singh later called on Zhu and the two sides held their first formal meeting.
"I reaffirmed India's commitment to further deepening and broadening the relationship as two largest neighbours, as two ancient civilizations and two great people comprising a third of the humanity," Singh told reporters.
"It is a responsibility to ensure that the two governments work towards a comprehensive, political, economic and social improvement of relation where people to people contacts also multiply.That was the thing," he added.
Forward movement
Indian officials said they expected "forward movement" in political and economic fields during Zhu's visit.
His six-day trip will also take him to the financial centre, Bombay, and Bangalore, which drove the country's software boom.
India and China, which fought a border war in 1962, have in recent years sought to improve ties to end decades of mistrust.
The two sides have made slow progress in resolving the dispute over their 4,500 km (2,600 mile) Himalayan border which is considered central to ties between the Asian giants.
China also holds about 20 percent of the disputed territory of Kashmir. This comprises a small area which New Delhi says Pakistan ceded illegally to Beijing and the Aksai Chin area further to the northeast which India also claims.
China claims large parts of the northeastern Indian states of Arunachal Pradesh and Sikkim.
Tibetans in exile
Beijing is also concerned about New Delhi's support to Tibetans living in exile in India after Chinese troops marched into Tibet in 1950.
Tibetan exiles protests coincided with Zhu Rongji's visit to India
Buddhist spiritual leader, Dalai Lama, who fled to India with his followers nine years later after an abortive uprising against communist rule, has set up the Tibetan government-in-exile in the northern Dharamshala town.
Both India and China avoided turning relations sore when Karmapa Lama, recognised both by Beijing and Dalai Lama, fled to India a few years ago.
Coinciding with Zhu's visit, Tibetan exiles continued protests in New Delhi for the second day but away from the eyes of Zhu's entourage.
Wearing black masks and head bands, hundreds of Tibetan youth shouted slogans in support of "Free Tibet".
China's critics accuse Beijing of engaging in a systematic attempt to crush Tibetan Buddhist culture and flood the region with ethnic Chinese settlers.
Beijing rejects the criticism, arguing that five decades of communist rule freed 1 million Tibetan serfs, boosted the economy and raised the living standards of Tibetans.
Of late, the Dalai Lama has dropped the demand for complete independence for Tibet and is now campaigning for genuine autonomy from the Chinese.
But the Chinese government has kept up attacks on the Buddhist leader, calling him an insincere propagandist and accusing him of avoiding proper channels of communication.
is this what ur talking about ?
Comment by aza spade— 2007/09/14 @ 09:50 AM — (Reply)
ONCE UPON THE TIME THEY CLAIMED TIBET...THEIR APETITE MAY GROW..BUT IS DIFFICULT TO FIGHT SUCH AN ARMY...WE CAN JUST WAIT AND HOPE
Comment by Damjan— 2007/09/14 @ 09:58 AM — (Reply)
WE ARE DIRECT ON THE BORDER WIT 3RD WORLD AS YOU CALLIT (i DON'T). SO OUR BORDERS ARE ACTUALY BORERS OF EUROPIAN UNION...WHAT IF AMERICAN, ENGLISH AND OTHER BEHAVIOR BRING THE WAR TO EUROPIAN UNION...SO WE WILL BE IN THE CENTER OF THE WARZONE BACAUSE THE TROOPS ARE STILL IN IRAQ AFGHANISTAN..AND OTHE...THAT IS MY BIGGEST COONCERNE...CUZ WE DON'T WANT WAR..IF THE BRITISH WANT TO HAVE WAR THEY CAN HAVE IT IN BRRITAIN...THEY SHOULD LEAVE US ALONE WE HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH IT
Comment by — 2007/09/14 @ 09:44 AM — (Reply)
THAT'S WHY I WOTED AGAINS US TO ENTER EUPIAN UNION AND NATO!!!!
Comment by — 2007/09/14 @ 10:23 AM — (Reply)
Comment by aza spade— 2007/09/14 @ 09:57 AM — (Reply)
Comment by aza spade— 2007/09/14 @ 09:58 AM — (Reply)
I KNOW THEY'RE NOT AMERICAN...IT'S HORRIBLE........BUT THEY WILL STOP IF ENGLISH AN AMERICAN WILL STOP...THE WAR IS TOO LONG..TOO MUCH PEOPLE AND VIOLENCE...WHAT KIND OF PEOPLE WE ARE BREEDING....THE WORLD SHOULD WAKE UP
Comment by Damjan— 2007/09/14 @ 10:01 AM — (Reply)
Comment by aza spade— 2007/09/14 @ 10:19 AM — (Reply)
WE FIGHT BECAUSE OF THE PROGRAM THAT SYSTEM GIVES TO US......9O PERCENT OF THE PEOPLE ALL OVER THE WORLD DO NOT WANT WARS?....PEOPLE GOT NO POWER...THAY ARE ALOUD TO DEMOSTRATE...BUT THEY NEVER ACHIVE NOTHING....PEOPLE SHOULD DECIDE IF WE NEED WAR OR NOT
Comment by Damjan— 2007/09/14 @ 10:27 AM — (Reply)
Comment by aza spade— 2007/09/14 @ 10:54 AM — (Reply)
Comment by aza spade— 2007/09/14 @ 10:57 AM — (Reply)
Comment by aza spade— 2007/09/14 @ 11:00 AM — (Reply)
Comment by aza spade— 2007/09/14 @ 11:02 AM — (Reply)
SIMILLAR SITUATION HAPPENED BEFORE WAR IN AFGHANISTAN AND IRAQ
Comment by Damjan— 2007/09/14 @ 12:14 PM — (Reply)
AND SINCE THEN USA VAS INVOLVED IN 75 WARS..I KNOW THAT TOO...
Comment by Damjan— 2007/09/14 @ 12:27 PM — (Reply)
Comment by aza spade— 2007/09/14 @ 12:29 PM — (Reply)
AN HOWMANY SAUDIS WERE ON THE PLANES ON 9/11....WHAT WERE SAUDIS DOIN ON THE PLANES....MAYBE SAUDIA HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH IT..
Comment by Damjan— 2007/09/14 @ 12:37 PM — (Reply)
Comment by aza spade— 2007/09/14 @ 12:55 PM — (Reply)
IT WILL HAPPEN BECAUSE WE'RE IN EUROPIAN UNION.....AND THEY CONSIDER US OFFENSIVE LIKE ENGLAND ...AND WE ACTUALY HAVE SILDIERS IN THEIR WAR TOO..SO YES THEY COULD STRIKE...BUT THEY WILL STRIKE CUZ THEY HATE ENGLAND..AND WE ARE JUST ON THE BORDER...HOW NICE
Comment by Damjan— 2007/09/14 @ 01:32 PM — (Reply)
IF OUR SOLDIERS STAY THERE...YES WE ARE THE TARGET...
Comment by Damjan— 2007/09/14 @ 01:33 PM — (Reply)
and everybody remembers that 2000 000 people died in nazi concentration camps........1,2 million people died and are still dying and being tortured in Tibet...and nobody did nothing...it's a genocide...swcond biggest in the world and they just let it hapen...and they re second degree citizans in their country now....second biggest masacre in history
Comment by — 2007/09/14 @ 02:33 PM — (Reply)
people don't even know abou the situation there...you didn't know....cuz media doesn't pay atentio...It is not important or what then?
Comment by Damjan— 2007/09/14 @ 02:35 PM — (Reply)
Comment by aza spade— 2007/09/14 @ 03:17 PM — (Reply)
that's what i'm talkin about..world is run by sick people who don't care about people, truth or justice...there are lies everywhere...i think you would agree that we deserve the truth...if they lie thru media they can lie to us in every corner of our enviroment...so we cannot be sure what's the real threat or what's just a phantom menace!!
Comment by — 2007/09/15 @ 01:40 AM — (Reply)
Comment by Ed— 2007/09/14 @ 02:35 PM — (Reply)
What is that? It sounds like a fart!
Comment by Damjan— 2007/09/14 @ 02:40 PM — (Reply)
Comment by Ed— 2007/09/14 @ 02:52 PM — (Reply)
kindrgatners are advanced these days...thay can write blogs!
Comment by Damjan— 2007/09/14 @ 03:01 PM — (Reply)
Comment by Ed— 2007/09/14 @ 05:52 PM — (Reply)
Ed!!! Grow up!!!
Comment by Damjan— 2007/09/15 @ 01:41 AM — (Reply)
So who did profit from 9/11
a) Iraq
b) Afgnanistan
c) USA & Friends
AZA....i just don't like the Idea...u said that media is corrupt and they give us missinformation..so they're programing us what to think and what to fear..I hate even to think that my friend died in Towers, because of greed and manipulation...I realy want to bealive thet extremists caused the colapses...but there are so many coincidences an holes..and so much of the information ids hidden
Comment by Damjan— 2007/09/15 @ 05:26 AM — (Reply)
Comment by aza spade— 2007/09/15 @ 09:34 AM — (Reply)
1. Your country's shameful acceptance of US aid in exchange for nothing. (i.e. charity and handouts)
2. Aza's question which was asked three separate times.
3. Helping Ed find the necessary mail order bride.
Slap yourself in the face damnjan and instead of acting like a nut take care of the above agenda. Do you have a JOB?
Comment by Ed— 2007/09/15 @ 07:57 AM — (Reply)
IT SMELLES IN HERE
Comment by Damjan— 2007/09/15 @ 09:23 AM — (Reply)
dAT IZ MY LAST STATEMENT....I'M MOOVING....BYE
Comment by — 2007/09/15 @ 09:27 AM — (Reply)
Comment by aza spade— 2007/09/15 @ 09:43 AM — (Reply)
WHY DID YOU LET PEOPLE WORK THER IF THEY WERE BARELY STANDING?...BYE MAN..SEE YA
Comment by Damjan— 2007/09/15 @ 10:05 AM — (Reply)
Comment by aza spade— 2007/09/15 @ 09:51 AM — (Reply)
Comment by aza spade— 2007/09/15 @ 10:17 AM — (Reply)
THE TOWERS SHOULD LAST ANOTHER 99 YEARS.......IT WAS IN A CONTRACT AND IN PAPERS BEFORE YEAR BEFORE THEY COLAPSE....AND TH EWIND WAS SOMETHINGS STRONG EQUALS TWO AIRLINERS...YOU KNOW THE WEATHER IN NY.....MAYBE THE TERORISTS PLACED BOMBS IN TOWERS...I NEVER SAID IT WAS AN INSIDE JOB
Comment by Damjan— 2007/09/15 @ 10:36 AM — (Reply)
UNIQUE SCELETON..A NET OUT OF STEEL..LIKE A MOSQUITO NET WERE THE WALLS OF THE TOWERS....IN THE CENTER OF THE AECH TOWER THERE WAS ALSO UNIQUE CORE MADE FROM 47 HUGE, MASSIVE, STEEL COLUMNS..THAT VERE VELVET AND MOLTEN TOGETHER,,BARELY INDESTRUCTABLE..OK ..THE FLOOR COULD TTHEORETICLY PANCAKE...BUT HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN TOTAL COLAPS OF ALL OF THE 47 COOLUMNS IN THE CORE...THE CORE SHOULD BE THERE...POINTING IN THE SKY LIKE A PENCIL..I'VE DONE MY HOMEWORK
Comment by — 2007/09/15 @ 02:19 PM — (Reply)
Comment by aza spade— 2007/09/15 @ 02:45 PM — (Reply)
IN THAT EMPTY SHAFT THERE WAS 47 COLUMNS....BIG ASS HELL
Comment by — 2007/09/15 @ 03:09 PM — (Reply)
THEY EXPLAINED MANY THINGS BUT THEY NEVER EXPLAIN TOTAL DISAPERANCE OF THE CENTRAL CORE IN THE INVASTIGATION..
Comment by Damjan— 2007/09/15 @ 02:30 PM — (Reply)
you asked about winds....Manhatten N.Y.C. has encountered at least 1 direct hit by an Atlantic hurricane over the last 100 years actually a lot less time in the last 30 years anyway I'm just being "BROAD" in terms so u may relate...hurrican force winds can reach excess of 1oo mph's, this is nothing like the force of an aircraft that weights fully fueled for cross country flight at nearly 300 thousand pounds traveling at time of impact at or near its full potiential of 600 mph ....I am pleased to inform u that the inertia measured in pounds of applied force equals soooooo much more than any hurrican force wind at anywhere near its maximum that the impact force will probably never ever be duplicated by anything other than another plane ramed into another building
Comment by aza spade— 2007/09/15 @ 02:57 PM — (Reply)
Comment by aza spade— 2007/09/15 @ 03:05 PM — (Reply)
Comment by aza spade— 2007/09/15 @ 03:07 PM — (Reply)
OK....BUT HOW COULD THE TOWERS FELT WITH A FREEFALL SPEED..THAT'S NOT POSSIBLE...WHERE'S THE RESSISTANCE...BODY CAN FALL WITH A FREEFALL SPEED ONLY WHEN THJERE'S NO OTHER RESISTANCE AS AIR..IF IF THE STRUCTURE WOULD BE SO WEEK...THE FALL WOULDN'T BE SO FAST..BUT MUCH SLOWER AS FREEFALL SPEED....AS I SAID TERRORISTS COULD PLANTED EXPLOSIVE THERE TO
Comment by — 2007/09/15 @ 03:14 PM — (Reply)
Comment by aza spade— 2007/09/15 @ 05:33 PM — (Reply)
AND IF YOU WATCH THE COLAPSE OF BUIDING 7 IT LOOKS EXACTLY AS CONTROLED DEMOITION...CENTRAL COLUMNS ARE OUT FIRST..THEN U SI A "KINK" (TYPICAL FOR CONTROLED DEMOLITION"...AN THEN THE COLAPS...FROM THE LOBBY UPA....IT FELT LIKE SHE WENT IN THE GROUND....AND THE OWNER SAUD IN THE NEWS.."THEY MADE A DECISION TO PULL IT"
Comment by Damjan— 2007/09/15 @ 03:26 PM — (Reply)
Comment by aza spade— 2007/09/15 @ 05:41 PM — (Reply)
i'm talking about building 7 now...ans what Lary Silvertein said..how they had to pull it
Comment by — 2007/09/16 @ 02:54 AM — (Reply)
LARRY SILVERSTEIN http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WYdAJQV100 HE SAID IT
Comment by Damjan— 2007/09/15 @ 03:31 PM — (Reply)
Comment by Ed— 2007/09/15 @ 05:02 PM — (Reply)
Comment by aza spade— 2007/09/15 @ 05:47 PM — (Reply)
U ASKED ME IF I HAVE A JOB....WELL I'M FINISHING MY MASTER DEGREE..IN PHYSICS....AND I WORK THRU THE STUDENT SERVICE..U HAVE THAT IN AMERICA...U SEE COLLEGE IS KINDA FREE IN SLOVENIA...THEY GIVES US EVEN SUBVENCIONS ON FOOD (-60%)...AND STUDENTS APARTMANS ARE 100 DOLLARS (KITCHE, BATHHROOM, ROOM, INTERNE--ALL INCLUDET)..SO OUR COUNTRY TAKES GOOD CARE OF US AND MAYBE THAT'S WHY WE DON'T HAVE GANGS AND WARS AND THREATS....AMERICAN GOVERNMENT DOESN'T HELP STUDENTS AND FOLKS SOCIALY. WELL, OUR GOVERNMENT DOES MUCH FOR THE PEOPLE. AND WE AREN'T SCARED..AND BLOODTHIRSTY...YOURE CRIME RATE IS SO HIGH THAT NO OTHER COUNTRY WILL EVER REPLACE YOUR PLACE IN THAT DEPARTMENT...EVERY MINUTE SOMEONE DIES VIOLENTLY..CAN'T YOU SENSE THAT SOMETHING IS WRONG WITH AMERICAN LAWS, AMERICAN WAY OF LIFE
Comment by http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WYdAJQV100— 2007/09/16 @ 09:38 AM — (Reply)
Comment by aza spade— 2007/09/16 @ 09:57 AM — (Reply)
meditation is my coffe....it makes me see thing,m clear as they are....meditattion shoulld bne coffe for you all....it's wisdom and awareness......an univesrsal understanding
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yEAH....AIRLINER HAS TWO HUGE ENGINES..ON EACH WING ONE.....SO...THEY BOTH IMPACT IN THE WALL ,ON THE BOTH SIDES OF THE 128FT WIDE HOLE. bUTH THEY DIDN'T LEAVE NO DAMAGE, NOT EVEN A SCRATCH ON THE WALL..THEY JUST DISAPERED...WALLS ON THE ACH SIDE OF THE HOLE ARE INTACT...BUT THOSE THINGS ARE HUGE...EVEN IN OR 3RD WORLD COUNTRY WE HAVE THEM....AND THOSE CAVEMEN ARE HEL OF A PILOTS...ACES...IF THEY COULD MANGE SUCH STUNTS WITH AIRLINERS THAT NOBODY WOULD DARE EVEN TO TRY....CUZ IT'S (ONCE AGAIN9..AGAINS PHYSIC LAWS..
Comment by Damjan— 2007/09/16 @ 05:52 AM — (Reply)
debri field of Pa. , Looks exactly the same as the debri left behind at the pentagon...coincedence ???? I think so ..
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Comment by Ed— 2007/09/15 @ 09:05 PM — (Reply)
Seriously, if there was a conspiracy it involved so many people that someone would have blown it by now. The rest of it is arcane scientific arguments none of which when broken down make sense.
Yo Mos! How goes it bud?
Comment by Barry G.— 2007/09/15 @ 09:16 PM — (Reply)
Barry...what abut Larry Silverstein statement....he said they had to pull the building 7..and they made an decision to pull it...he said it....hey MOS...agree with you totaly
Comment by Damjan— 2007/09/16 @ 02:53 AM — (Reply)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WYdAJQV100
Comment by Damjan— 2007/09/16 @ 05:44 AM — (Reply)
C'MON..WHY DID GOOD OLD LARRY SAY THAT....HE WAS THE OWNER?
Comment by Damjan— 2007/09/16 @ 07:39 AM — (Reply)
FUNNY....NOR ARE THEY ALL QUIET....
Comment by Damjan— 2007/09/16 @ 09:00 AM — (Reply)
more pix of airplane debri stuck inside pentagon 9/11/01
Comment by aza spade— 2007/09/16 @ 09:52 AM — (Reply)
so u are sayin that he didn't say it.....or what...we all know he said it...in he said it with confidence
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Comment by aza spade— 2007/09/16 @ 10:35 AM — (Reply)
The Truth"
http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/blxterror.htm
http://www.slate.com/id/2088092/
http://www.911myths.com/
http://www.911myths.com/html/wtc__demolition_.html
As Barry said, if a vast conspiracy was behind it all, in six years there would have been a leak. I defy anyone to point to a conspiracy where there we no leaks.
Comment by Ed— 2007/09/16 @ 10:46 AM — (Reply)
YOU REALY THINK THEY WOULD LEEK....WELL ORGINEZID ORGANIZATIONS LIKE "THE MOB"....THEY DON'T LEEK AS YOU SAY IT..(I'M JUST COMPARING ORGANIZED GROUPS, NOTHING ELSE)...THEY'RE MASTERS OF KEEPING SECRET...SO IF IT IS A CONSPIRACY (I NEVER SAID THAT THE TERRORIST DIDN'T PLACE EXPLOZIVE IN THE BUILDINGS) YES I BEALIVE THEY WOULD KEEP IT IN SECRET...THAT WOULD BE PRIORITY NR.1
Comment by Damjan— 2007/09/16 @ 11:59 AM — (Reply)
Admit it.
Comment by Ed— 2007/09/16 @ 03:51 PM — (Reply)
i DON' WANT TO REPEAT MYSELF....WOULD YOU ACTUALY TELL ME SOMETHING ABOUT LARRY SILVERSTEINS STATEMENT....WHY WOULD HE MADE SUCH A THING UP...HE WAS THE OWNER FOR CHRISTS SAKE...."THE LOST OF LIFE WAS SO BUG...SO WE DECIDED JUST TO PULL IT. aAND THEY PULL IT"...HE SAID THAT
Comment by Damjan— 2007/09/16 @ 11:54 AM — (Reply)
Comment by aza spade— 2007/09/16 @ 12:06 PM — (Reply)
MAN...SLOW DOWN...I'M TALKING ABOU BUILDING 7....LARRY SILVERSTEIN SAIG IT ABOUT BUILDING 7..."WE MADE AN DECISION TO PULL IT."....BUILDING SEVEN
Comment by Damjan— 2007/09/16 @ 12:09 PM — (Reply)
HE SAID IT ABOUT BUILDING SEVEN...SO MY QUESTION IS..WHY HE SAID WE MADE A DECISION TO PULL IT?....
Comment by Damjan— 2007/09/16 @ 12:11 PM — (Reply)
Comment by aza spade— 2007/09/16 @ 12:12 PM — (Reply)
PLANET IS DYING....WORLD WAR MAY DESTROY OUR EART IF THE GLOBAL WARMING DOESN'T DO IT BEFORE...WE SHOULD THINK ABOUT WORLD LIKE ONE NATION...NOT PROTECTING YOURE NATIONA INTERESTE..IN WHAT CAUSE,...WHERE WOULD YOU LIVE IF WE DESTROY THE WORLD THE...ON THE MOON..POLITICIANS ARE STUPID...WE SHOULD GIVE THE CONTROL TO SCIENTISTS..NOT EXPLOID THE...TECHNOLOGY CAN DO AS MUCH GOOD AS EVIL..WE DON'T NEED WARS AND FEAR...
Comment by Damjan— 2007/09/16 @ 12:19 PM — (Reply)
Comment by aza spade— 2007/09/16 @ 12:22 PM — (Reply)
I BEALIVE IN KINDa budist way...but i don't aprove tempels...your innere soul is exact energy that runs kozmos....so i don't aprove creator or GOD. I bealive in creation..and yes i aprove evolution like all true religions are aproving evolution..cuz things are simply changing all the time...we all will die...world will die..even sun...but the energy/soul will stay...so i bealive human rase did come from a monkey..and science is accepted in tru religions .and with wars..we are hurtin ourselves..humanity...and by the law of carma..everything has conciquencwe..and you see..world is gettin uglier every day...and it will get uglier
Comment by — 2007/09/16 @ 12:42 PM — (Reply)
and as a budist i'm not afraid even of death...death is beautifull as birth..just a chapter...so let them come..they can just hurt my body...when u meditate u see the world as it is...pure love....an ternaty..you see that u are part of the universe..and every living creature is important...even chaney and bush...but they don't know...greed is runing them
Comment by — 2007/09/16 @ 12:51 PM — (Reply)
and muslims, jews, cristians (all of them)..they're all bealiving in the same story that made them all slaves...and they fight because of same beliefs...contant fear from helll.but we din't aprove hell to and it doesn' exist...that's way they let the chinese do what they want to do with tibet...cuz capitalism can work with such a religion..we bealive we can save ourselve...need no god ...cuz we are a part of god
Comment by — 2007/09/16 @ 01:02 PM — (Reply)
even bush and bin laden are part of god...
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Comment by Ed— 2007/09/16 @ 02:12 PM — (Reply)
BUDIST FEEL LOVE AND COMPASSION TO EVERY THING, ANIMAL, PLANT AND HUMAN...YEAH, YOU'RE RIGHT....LOVE COMPASSION AND AVERENESS ARE EVIL..YES
Comment by Damjan— 2007/09/16 @ 02:32 PM — (Reply)
CUZ ED....WHEN U MEDITATE YOU GET RID OF WISHES DISARE...TRASH IS THROWN OUT OF YOU....YOU SEE THE WORLD AND THE MEANING OF WORLD IN SUCH I CLEAR WA...IN THAT PEACE YOU CAN FEEL THE CREATION...SO I DON'T HAVE TO BEALIVE...CUZ I'VE BEEN THERE...AND I KNOW THE MEANING OF LIFE...WE SHOULD ALL BEEN THERE BUT WE'VE FORGOTTEN ABOUT OR INNER SOUL (CALL IT AS YOU WILL)..AND CONECTION WITH THE CREATION....SO I'M TELLIN YOU ONCE...LOVE COMPASSION AVERENESS HELP AND PEACE...THOSE THINGS WILL SAVE US,....SUFFERING, DEATH, TERROR, WARS...THOSE THINGS ARE HERE ONLY TO DESTROY....SO WE HAVE THE CHANCE TO CHOOSE
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Comment by aza spade— 2007/09/16 @ 12:16 PM — (Reply)
FORGET ABOUT SOMETHING THAT COULD EXPLAIN MUCH....GOOD TACTIC....IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IN ANY CRIME INVESTIGATIONS...YOU DON'T JUST FORGET ABOUT THINGS..WHEN SUCH SERRIUS CRIME IS DONE
Comment by Damjan— 2007/09/16 @ 12:21 PM — (Reply)
it looked exactly as a control demolition...exactly like those we exament in college. U can actualy see in the slow motion how the central columns implode first...(that's how you prevent thr damage on the other buildings)....and then the floors, from basement up, are just disapering in the ground.....you could us it like a study example for a perfect demolition.
Comment by Damjan— 2007/09/16 @ 01:13 PM — (Reply)
...JUST SPRETING FEAR...TYPICA....WHY DO YOU AWOID LARRY SILVERSTEINS STATEMENT AND TRYIN TO SCARE ME ONCE AGAIN...WHY DID HE SAID IT...HE WAS AN OWNER...
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Comment by aza spade— 2007/09/16 @ 01:19 PM — (Reply)
tHERE'S NO GOD'S PLAN...WE ARE IN CONTROL...JUST THINK ABOUT IT: IF THERE WILL BE LESS VIOLENCE, HATE, FEAR ANS ANGER AND MORE LOVE FRIENDSHIP, COMPESSION TO ALL LIVING THINGS...THE WORRLD WOULD BE A BETTER PLACE.....NO BUT BLOOD IS EVERYEHERE...AND HOW COULD IT BE BETTER. WE FORGOT THAT WE HAVE THE CONTROL, BUT WE'RE LIVING LIKE SHEEPS, SCARED AND ANGRY. WEHAVE THE CONTROL BUT THERE'S NO DESTINY...POLITICIANS ARE CREATING IMAGINARY DESTINY..AND WE JUST FOLLOW...SO IT'S NOT AN GODS PLAN...CREATION DOESN'T RULE AS....THERE'S GOOD AND BAD SIDES OF EVERY THING IN UNIVERSE....WE JUST HAVE TO CHOOSE
Comment by Damjan— 2007/09/16 @ 01:36 PM — (Reply)
Comment by aza spade— 2007/09/16 @ 02:36 PM — (Reply)
DATH IS AN ILLUSION......IT'S BETTER 4 ME THAT THEY JUST KILLMY BODY...THEN TO POISON IT WITH FEAR AND REVENGE....I PERFER TO DIE, MY SOUL WILL STAY CLEAN...LIFE IS JUST A FALLING STAR!!!!!,,,,
Comment by Damjan— 2007/09/16 @ 03:05 PM — (Reply)
i'm not one of them.....i don't want to be....they shouldn't even exist and terorize...but they are....if we leave them alone, there will be no consequencrs
Comment by — 2007/09/17 @ 02:38 AM — (Reply)
IT SEEMS LIKE U MISSED A LOT OF PHISYC CLASSE, AZA?
Comment by — 2007/09/16 @ 02:17 PM — (Reply)
IT SEEMS LIKE U MISSED A LOT OF PHISYC CLASSE, AZA?
Comment by Damjan— 2007/09/16 @ 02:18 PM — (Reply)
SOME SKYSCRAPERS BURNED FOR TWENTY HOURS..MANY OF THEM MUCH LONGER THEN WTC...NONE OF THEM EVER COLAPSE CAUSE STEEL CAN DEFORME, BUT NECER COLAPSE..SCELETON WOULD LAST IF EVERYTHING ELSE WOULD BURN OUT...ALLWAYS IN HISTORY STEEL DID LAST FIRES AND BOMBS.....EVN IN HUNGRY YO COULD BURN THE BUIDING DOWN AND IT WILL STILL STAND THERE...IN NY THERE WERE 3 WORLD RECORDS...AND HOUNDREDS OF COINCIDECES IN ONE DAY...THE WORLD DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY...I'M SORY
Comment by Damjan— 2007/09/16 @ 02:27 PM — (Reply)
Comment by aza spade— 2007/09/16 @ 02:41 PM — (Reply)
IT'S POINLESS TALK'N TO U...IT'S CEATING MORE NEGATIVE ENERGY
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Comment by aza spade— 2007/09/16 @ 03:30 PM — (Reply)
bye,,,my brother.-...sorry for sayin that....nothing in our lives is pointless....u are a good man....i can feel it.!!!!
Comment by — 2007/09/17 @ 02:13 AM — (Reply)
I'M WRITING A BOOK....IF U WANT TO READ IT...CAN I SEND A E-COPY TO YOU..NT IF YOU DON'T WANT...BUT IF YOU WANT TO READ IT...I WILL SEND IT TO YOU
Comment by Damjan— 2007/09/17 @ 07:41 AM — (Reply)
they hate america, europe..because they steal ouil from them since the old bush administration...they hate cuz they were youre friends before...they hate cuz their children are dying....they were alredy poor before the war...they hate cuz they are suffering....if we would allow them free trade...and let'em control their own oil....they would not hate....they are hating because of things that happened in history...wake up...
Comment by — 2007/09/17 @ 02:42 AM — (Reply)
SO IF WE WOULD GAVE THEM SOMETHING OUT OF LOVE....THEY WOULD EVENTUALY STOP TO HATE...I'M SURE
Comment by — 2007/09/17 @ 02:43 AM — (Reply)
it looked exactly as a control demolition...exactly like those we exament in college. U can actualy see in the slow motion how the central columns implode first...(that's how you prevent thr damage on the other buildings)....and then the floors, from basement up, are just disapering in the ground.....you could us it like a study example for a perfect demolition.
Comment by Damjan— 2007/09/16 @ 01:26 PM — (Reply)
ALL RELIGIONS INCLUDING BUDDHISM SHOULD JUST DISAPEAR..FROM THE EARTH...LET PEOPLE BEALIVE WHAT THEY WANT TO..BUT GET RID OF THE ORGANIZATIONS...THERE COULD BE PLACES WHERE THEY CAN EXCHANGE BEALIVES....BUT NO PRIESTS..OR ORGANIZATIONS..AND NO POLITICS INVOLVED....EVEN BUUDHISM DOESN'T NEED NAME AND MONKS AND GOLDEN BUDDHA...CUZ CREATION IS SPIRITUAL...THOSE THINGS ARE MATERIALISTIC....DELETING OF THE RELIGIUS INSTITUTIONS ALL OVER THE WORLD,.....THAT SHOULD BE A WORLD PROJECT...AND THE WORLD WOULD BE FREE CUZ RELIGION WOULDN'T LABEL YOU...AND YOU COULD BEALIVE WHAT EVER YOU WILL IN YOUR HEARTH......NO HIEARHY
IF SOME WOULD PREACH RELIGION HE SHULDN'T BE RANKED LIKE IN MILITARY
Comment by Damjan— 2007/09/16 @ 03:46 PM — (Reply)
SCIENCE SHOUL RUN THE WORLD....EXPERTS FROM DIFFFERENT FIELD...NO PRESUURE FROM POLITICIANS AND NATIONS...NO MORE SCIENTISTS WORKING FOR NATIONS...FORCED TO CREATE HORRIBLE DESTRUCTIVE THINGS....IT'S NOT HERE WILL TO CREATE WEAPONS...SCIENCE COULD HEAL THE WORLD.....YES WE HAVE TO GET RIDE OF POLITICS, RELIGIUS INSTITUTIONSAND CORPORATIONS. ECONOMY SHOULD BE IN THE HANDS OF SCIENCE..EXPERTS...MOSTY EDJUCATED ONES.....GENETIC INGENEERING COULD USE FOR GOOD TOO.....WE HAVE THE POWER TO MAKE "PARADISE" OUT OF HELL...BUT WE ARE PRODUCING WEAPONS..AND DESTROY EVERYTHING...POWER TO THE SCIENCE..NO MORE NATIONS, RREKIGIUS INSTITUTIONS, POLITICS, CORPORATIONS....FREEDOM..ONE WORLDD
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Comment by Ernie Els— 2007/09/16 @ 08:36 PM — (Reply)
i realy meait-----if there would be no more nations, we would not need politics anymore.....mostly edjucated scientists withan open mind...witch would explore matter and spirituality...Old rules and systems are kinda behind the time...old ancient rules and hiearhy cannot help us...it's time that we free ourselves from the past...and create in all wiews..A modern world based on awereness, love and compession...now that would be a place to live...We have to see that the old ways wouldn't bring us anywhere
Comment by Damjan— 2007/09/17 @ 02:10 AM — (Reply)
Scientists are alredy solving every major proble..but in the name of politics...They should solve more problems..All scientists all over the wprld should unite and work for a beeter civilization..politicians are poisoned with agendas and greet...and they are not experts in their fields...politics are ancient...they should jus cancel
Comment by Damjan— 2007/09/17 @ 02:19 AM — (Reply)
Aza...i would be delited if i can share my wiews with muslims....but what's their adresse..do they have forums, web pages or email....do they speak english...and how can i contact them to knock some sence in them
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Comment by Ed— 2007/09/17 @ 06:05 AM — (Reply)
I WISH PROSPERICY, HAPPINEST, AWARENESS AND LOVE IN YOURE LIFE....THE "WAR" STARTS WITH CHANGING OURSELVES..WAR FOUGHT WITH LOVE...BUT IT STARTS WITH EVERY EACH ONE OF US...WE HAVE TO CHANGE OURSELVES TO CHANGE THE WORLD....START TO LOOK ON THE WORLD WITH COMPESSION...YOU HAVE IT IN YA....I KNOW
Comment by Damjan— 2007/09/17 @ 06:33 AM — (Reply)
EVERYONE OF US, BIN LADEN, BUSHES, AL GORE, CLINTONS...EVEN U HAVE THAT INNER ITERNITY OF CREATION INSIDE OF YOU...BUT PEOPLE JUST FORGOTTEN...IF I HAVE....EVEY ANIMAL, INSECT, TREE OR HUMAN...WE ALL GOT IT....BUT IS BURRIED UNDER FEAR, REVENGE AND AGRESSION...IF PEOPLE WOULDN'T BE IN CONSTANCE FEAR THEY WILL ALL FEEL IT EVENTUALY
Comment by Damjan— 2007/09/17 @ 06:39 AM — (Reply)
AZA. THIS IS FOR YOU. WHY ARE YOU ALWAYS PERFERING TO THEM AS "MUSLIMS"...THERE ARE TERRORIST EXTREME GROUPS THAT BOMB PLACES AND KILL PEOPLE.....IT'S RASIST TO MAKE SUCH A HORRIBLE STEREOTYPES ABOUT ANOTHER RASE. PEOPLE ARE BAD AND GOOD. IT HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THEIR RELIGION OR SKIN COLOR...IT'S LIK IF SOMEBODY WOULD STEREOTYPE ALL AMERICANS AS "KU KLUX CLAN" IN THE FIFTIES. THAT WOULDN'T BE FAIR AS WELL
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Comment by aza spade— 2007/09/17 @ 09:11 AM — (Reply)
don't missunderstand me..but when you say muslims....you mark entire rase...and i know that most of them are peaceloving like you and me...you should sa jihad...extremists or al qaida....there are many gangs and mob groups in america...but we don't say the americans are shooting eachother...we say gangmembers.-....IRA was catolic terrorist group.....but not all catolics are terrorist...i don't want to opfend you....just call them terrorist not muslims....cthat's way people are afraid of all arabs...you know where i'm pointing
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Please pause a moment, reflect back, and take the following multiple choice test. The events are actual cuts from past history. They actually happened!!!
Do you remember?
-1968 Bobby Kennedy was shot and killed by
a. Superman
b. Jay Leno
c. Harry Potter
d. Muslim male extremist between the ages of 17 and 40
1. In 1972 at the Munich Olympics, athletes were kidnapped and massacred by
a. Olga Corbett
b. Sitting Bull
c. Arnold Schwarzenegger
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
2. In 1979, the US embassy in Iran was taken over by:
a. Lost Norwegians
b. Elvis
c. A tour bus full of 80-year-old women
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
3.During the 1980's a number of Americans were kidnapped in Lebanon by:
a. John Dillinger
b. The King of Sweden
c. The Boy Scouts
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
4. In 1983, the US Marine barracks in Beirut was blown up by:
a. A pizza delivery boy
b. Pee Wee Herman
c. Geraldo Rivera
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
5. In 1985 the cruise ship Achille Lauro was hijacked and a 70 year old American passenger was murdered and thrown overboard in his wheelchair by:
a. The Smurfs
b. Davy Jones
c. The Little Mermaid
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
6.In 1985 TWA flight 847 was hijacked at Athens, and a US Navy diver trying to rescue passengers was murdered by:
a. Captain Kidd
b. Charles Lindberg
c. Mother Teresa
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
7.In 1988, Pan Am Flight 103 was bombed by:
a. Scooby Doo
b. The Tooth Fairy
c. Butch Cassidy and The Sundance Kid
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
8. In 1993 the World Trade Center was bombe d the first time by:
a. Richard Simmons
b. Grandma Moses
c. Michael Jordan
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
9.In 1998, the US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by:
a. Mr. Rogers
b. Hillary Clinton, to distract attention from Wild Bill' s women problems
c. The World Wrestling Federation
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
10.On 9/11/01, four airliners were hijacked; two were used as missiles to take out the World Trade
Centers and of the remaining two, one crashed into the US Pentagon and the other was
diverted and crashed by the passengers.Thousands of people were killed by:
a. Bugs Bunny, Wiley E. Coyote, Daffy Duck and Elmer Fudd
b. The Supreme Court of Florida
c. Mr. Bean
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
11.In 2002 the United States fought a war in Afghanistan against:
a. Enron
b. The Lutheran Church
c. The NFL
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
12. In 2002 reporter Daniel Pearl was kidnapped and murdered by:
a. Bonnie and Clyde
b. Captain Kangaroo
c. Billy Graham
d. Muslim male extremist s mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
13. 2004 - Spain Railway bombings were done by:
Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
14. 2005 London Railway bombings were done by:
Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
AND NOW !
15. 2006 plot to blowup airliners leaving London for US destinations. Who has been implicated:
Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
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Hello Everyone, there was a conspiricy that day but it started when Gearoge Bush Sr. Was in office. Sadam had went into Kuwait he threatend Saudia Arabia. So Since we didnt get him the first time Sr. had to find away to get him. Well when the Supreame Court judge from florida retired Sr. put a friend in place to take the position.
During the Clinton years Bush cronies were running FBI, and the other agencies that are in charge of our security, they heard things but ignored it. Then in 1993 osam tried the first time with the bomb in the basement there was a golden oppertunity. Now enter 2000 the elction year, Bush Sr. had his son Jeb running the state of Florida, who has oppertunity, theres the head judge who was placed there by George Sr. So the fix was in for Gearoge Jr.
Jr. Went to Saudia Arabia to visit family friends the royal family.
During that meeting the Subject on how to raise oil prices and getting rid of Sadam Hussaine. The plan hatched the Saudi's supplied the ment to do the deed, president Bush Sr. and Jr. had the targets and the wepoans.
And the rest is well public knowledge, president was what a coincidance in his Brothers state of Florida, the VP was in the area of the shelters, no air craft were dispached to intercept, and wham plans hit buildings and thousands die. We rush into Afghanastan and into Iraq now fast forward to 2008 sadanms is on the river styxx,with his 2 sons, and the real person who was reported to have been responcible for 9-11 is in the wind. The people who reaped the most our ignorant president and his bumbling Vp, and the royal family of saudia arabia and Opec. Theres the real conspiricy.
Comment by Chuck— 2008/05/02 @ 07:07 PM — (Reply)
Shew.
The official story of 911 is the biggest bunch of BS - EVER!
Arrest all the traitors!
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